Girl Gaga returned to pop music when she launched “Mayhem” final week. NPR Music’s Hazel Cills talks to Rob Schmitz in regards to the album.
ROB SCHMITZ, HOST:
You may know Girl Gaga for being a pop star. However within the final decade, she’s executed much more than simply make radio-friendly hits. She’s had main roles in movies and tv, taken a rustic flip and recorded two jazz albums with the late Tony Bennett. However final week, Girl Gaga returned to pop music when she launched “Mayhem.”
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “DISEASE”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) I might play the physician. I can remedy your illness. For those who have been a sinner, I might make you imagine.
SCHMITZ: Critics are calling the album a return to kind for an artist who likes to experiment. We’re joined by NPR Music’s Hazel Cills to speak about “Mayhem.” Welcome, Hazel.
HAZEL CILLS, BYLINE: Thanks for having me.
SCHMITZ: So that is the primary album that we have heard from Girl Gaga since 2020. What do you consider it?
CILLS: I feel that this album, “Mayhem,” is absolutely Gaga doing what she does greatest. I imply, she’s making this very, like, darkish, theatrical pop music. She was additionally very impressed by goth music making this album, which is attention-grabbing, referencing bands like 9 Inch Nails and The Treatment. There are all these songs about, you recognize, beasts and zombies and witchcraft. There’s even a music known as “Abracadabra” that really credit the very influential ’80s goth rock group Siouxsie And The Banshees as a result of it sounds fairly just like one of many band’s songs.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “ABRACADABRA”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) With a haunting dance, now you are each in a trance. It is time to solid your spell on the evening. Abracadabra, amor-oo-na-na. Abracadabra, morta-oo-ga-ga (ph).
SCHMITZ: So Girl Gaga is a pop artist, however she’s additionally made music and different genres. And, you recognize, as we talked about, she made jazz albums with Tony Bennett. She took a rustic flip. How does this album match into that profession?
CILLS: Yeah, it is attention-grabbing. You understand, Gaga has known as this album very chaotic. In my view, it actually is not chaotic. I really feel like Mayhem is her sort of returning to the sound that launched her profession again within the late 2000s. And it feels like she’s typically performing virtually, like, an homage to her greatest work on this album. There’s a number of elements on the album the place it looks like she’s very explicitly referencing her personal catalog. For instance, there is a music known as Backyard of Eden.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “GARDEN OF EDEN”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) Take you to the backyard of Eden, poison apple, take a chew. I am going to take you to the backyard of Eden. I am going to take you to the backyard of Eden. Oh.
CILLS: The way in which that she sings on that music, the best way that she performs her vocals – it sounds so unbelievably just like me to the best way that she sings on her 2009 hit “Unhealthy Romance.”
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “BAD ROMANCE”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) I would like your love, and I would like your revenge. You and me might write a nasty romance. Oh. I would like your love and all of your lover’s revenge, you and me…
SCHMITZ: And you might be saying that “Mayhem” is a return for Girl Gaga to the music she was making practically 20 years in the past. Does the music sound, you recognize, dated in any respect, like, this 12 months, in 2025?
CILLS: I really feel like I might see how folks would suppose that, however it’s humorous. To me, it actually would not sound dated. You understand, I really feel like what’s attention-grabbing about “Mayhem” is that I really feel like plenty of artists couldn’t pull off making an album like this, you recognize, form of going again so explicitly to the sound of, you recognize, the place they began their profession. I really feel like lots of people would suppose that is likely to be boring for an artist to do. I feel the truth that Girl Gaga has had such an experimental profession and a such numerous catalog, it implies that she will be able to form of pull this off. And, you recognize, there is a music on the album known as “Vanish Into You.” Once I hear a music like that, I hear somebody who actually is aware of their very own private components and is aware of what works for them and is pulling it off fairly confidently.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “VANISH INTO YOU”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) Do you see me? Do you see me now? Noticed your face and mine in an image by our bedside. It was chilly within the summertime. We have been blissful simply to be alive.
SCHMITZ: Yeah, I can hear that. I imply, this feels like so much like her earlier work. And as many people know, you recognize, Girl Gaga is not only a musician. She simply starred within the new “Joker” sequel, and he or she was nominated for an Oscar for her position in “A Star Is Born.” You understand, how does her music match into this profession lately?
CILLS: Yeah, I really feel like from, you recognize, the skin Gaga’s profession during the last a number of years, it is likely to be sort of complicated. She’s simply executed so many alternative issues, pivoted in so many alternative instructions. And I really feel like “Mayhem,” this album, is sort of a palate cleanser for anybody who has felt confused by that. She appears very conscious of what folks need from her, which is, you recognize, this sort of music. There is a music on the album known as “Excellent Celeb,” the place she’s actually sort of singing explicitly about how her followers see her and the way Hollywood sees her.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “PERFECT CELEBRITY”)
LADY GAGA: (Singing) I am product of plastic like a human doll. You push and pull me, I do not damage in any respect. I speak in circles ‘trigger my mind, it aches. You say I really like you, I disintegrate.
CILLS: It simply actually solidifies to me that “Mayhem” is an album that’s sort of serving as a reminder to everybody that beneath all of it, she’s sort of the identical musician that she’s at all times been.
SCHMITZ: So Hazel, what do you suppose Girl Gaga’s making an attempt to inform us with this album? Do you suppose it is – it tells one thing about how she sees herself as an artist?
CILLS: Yeah, I feel undoubtedly. I have been describing this album to pals as form of a flex. It simply looks like her actually confidently saying, you recognize, I am in a world of my very own. You understand, she will be able to make nice pop music completely on her personal time period. She would not should comply with tendencies. You understand, she did not must do one other dramatic pivot like so many pop stars should do. And I feel, you recognize, in between, you recognize, films and tv and all of her different ventures, she’s principally saying, like, I can at all times come again to this. Like, I can do that in my sleep. And I feel her followers, you recognize, actually love her for it.
SCHMITZ: It should be good. That is NPR Music’s Hazel Cills. Hazel, thanks for becoming a member of us.
CILLS: Thanks for having me.
(SOUNDBITE OF LADY GAGA SONG, “PERFECT CELEBRITY”)
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