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Fragrance Genius on his obsession with demented issues : World Cafe : NPR

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Fragrance Genius

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Set Record

  • “It is a Mirror”
  • “In a Row”
  • “Me & Angel”
  • “Fade Into You”

As a younger boy, Mike Hadreas remembers seeing a information report about two children getting kidnapped in a white van. It was clearly scary, however Hadreas was additionally intrigued.

“I sort of began fantasizing about getting kidnapped,” he says.

Ever since, entering into harmful conditions “for the story” has been a horny prospect for Hadreas, who performs as Fragrance Genius.

“I knew I used to be going to do this after I acquired older,” he says. “I used to be, like, ‘I will transfer to the town, and I will be an alcoholic and an artist.’ … I sort of engaged in lots of issues at first for the story — to be the wild artist that I assumed I used to be, regardless that I used to be making zero artwork. I used to be simply doing lots of medicine.”
 
Hadreas, now practically 20 years sober, has adopted a distinct outlook on life, and his musical storytelling has flourished consequently.

“You may make one thing actually demented with out referencing a demented reminiscence that you just really lived via, and you can also make one thing deeply unhappy and shifting with out being in that place,” he says.

His newest file follows probably the least harmful state of affairs — albeit harmful in one other sense: On account of the COVID-19 lockdowns, Hadreas discovered himself — for the primary time — with nothing to do however replicate on his 15 years of creating music.

In immediately’s session, Hadreas joins us to speak in regards to the album he made within the aftermath of that stillness. Glory is, amongst different issues, a meditation on his profession so far; on dying; on his concern of males; and on the soundness he is discovered along with his longtime romantic and artistic accomplice, Alan Wyffels.

Glory additionally options contributions from New Zealand singer-songwriter Aldous Harding, and producer Blake Mills. We even have unique dwell performances of songs from Glory recorded by our associates at WFUV in New York.

On his expertise self-isolating in the course of the COVID-19 pandemic

“I sort of simply tanked, actually. The music is a fairly constant schedule of vitality. You isolate. You write. You then go into the studio. You then tour for a 12 months and half. It is this built-in steadiness of inner and exterior.

“Plus, the entire thing is so overwhelming that I have never actually had an opportunity to finalize any of my ideas … I simply did it on stage or with the music. I feel having that every one be on maintain, in a manner, I simply began spiraling and making up for misplaced time.”

On his nervousness round males and “It is a Mirror”

“Small speak makes me actually nervous, and I feel it is as a result of I am scared that I will get came upon. It is not that you would be able to’t — with any sort of speak — in all probability make some assumptions about me fairly shortly that, rising up, acquired me into hassle and have been very obvious from a younger age.

“I feel I simply have this concept that males, particularly, are going to not like me and I must keep away from them for my very own security … I do not suppose it truly is true anymore, however if in case you have an expertise while you’re 11 or 8 or no matter, it shapes your worldview … Sadly, lots of issues have lasted into my 40s that I in all probability determined after I was 7 that are not true anymore.”

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Fragrance Genius

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On his love of “disgusting” issues

“I feel I like when issues are off, after they’re imperfect or comprise a bunch of issues without delay; they’re humorous they usually stink…

“I similar to the opposite facet of all the things. It is enjoyable to go there. Anyone despatched me a meme they wrote exhibiting a bunch of topic issues from a few of my songs, and it was so demented … Like, lesbian cannibalism planet, which is a track that I wrote. Then, giving start to a demon out of your butt. I did that track too…

“Though the topic feels very campy or ‘an excessive amount of,’ I felt a way of energy inside [those songs]. That is a part of it too — I like making silly or disgusting issues really feel highly effective and delightful or worthwhile.

This episode of World Cafe was produced and edited by Miguel Perez. Our senior producer is Kimberly Junod and our engineer is Chris Williams. Our programming and reserving coordinator is Chelsea Johnson and our line producer is Will Loftus.

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