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Denmark on NATO and Ukraine – The Cipher Transient

OPINION — “Crucial half proper now’s that Europe would be capable to purchase navy tools right here within the U.S. so we will donate these navy methods on to Ukraine. That can also be dialogue happening proper now. I believe [President] Trump is on the appropriate path right here. I believe he has promised that may be a risk. We’re speaking in these hours about 10 Patriot [missile defense] methods and I believe the result of that dialogue can be that European international locations will be capable to purchase the Patriot methods after which donate them on to Ukraine and that is necessary as a result of the discussions two months in the past have been, in actual fact, that there have been no extra to purchase right here within the U.S. So the result of the dialogue proper now’s transferring in a greater path.”

That was Denmark’s Protection Minister Troels Lund Poulsen, talking one week in the past on the Middle for Strategic and Worldwide Research (CSIS), the place he appeared together with Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Denmark’s Minister of International Affairs. They mentioned not simply Ukraine and NATO, but in addition their relations with the U.S., Greenland, the vital minerals challenge and Denmark’s targets in taking on the Presidency of the European Union (EU) for the following six months.


The 2 had been in Washington for a number of days of assembly with senior Trump officers, and Members of Congress, partly as a result of Denmark has assumed the Presidency of the European Union and plans to make navy preparedness an indicator of the nation’s six month management time period.

Final Tuesday, Poulsen defined the reasoning for European nations to purchase weapons from the U.S. for Ukraine, which Trump and NATO Secretary Basic Mark Rutte introduced on the White Home yesterday. He and Rasmussen additionally defined the background of the European nations’ decision-making in addition to their views of actions right here in Washington and the remainder of the world.

International Minister Rasmussen gave his personal evaluation of the scenario in Moscow, saying, “You should not overestimate the facility of Russia. I imply we have now weakened the [Russian] financial system. They’re now on a battle footing so to talk. They spend extra on navy than in well being and schooling and every thing civilized mixed. They’ve enormous casualties, excessive inflation. I imply if it was a extra open clear society with some type of inner discussions, issues would have been very, very, totally different. In the event you evaluate the casualties with what they misplaced in Afghanistan and determined to withdraw, it is a lot worse.”

A former two-time Danish Prime Minister, Rasmussen continued, “However after all it is a closed society and it’s a one-man-takes-all-decisions-kind-of-society. It isn’t a democracy, however it’s inside our arms, so to talk, to truly crash Putin and his battle machine.”

Rasmussen then added, “The large query is whether or not we [Denmark and the other NATO and EU countries] have, you realize, the readiness, the willingness to take action, and right here after all we want the U.S. I imply it goes with out saying that Europe has to pay a much bigger a part of the invoice. We do. We [Europe] now account for like 70% of the overall help to Ukraine. That quantity will go up, however we want the U.S. on board as properly, not least after we are speaking sanctions and stress on Putin.”

As Rasmussen identified, tiny Denmark provides fairly a bit by itself. “We’re the fourth greatest contributor to Ukraine,” he stated, “so it is like U.S., U.Ok. [United Kingdom], Germany, after which Denmark. Per capita, we’re thus far the largest. We spend like plus 1,500 Euros [$1,754] per capita in Denmark. It is greater than the double in comparison with the second greatest spender in Europe.”

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As for U.S. arms, “We want extra velocity in our procurements from the U.S.,” Poulsen stated. “It’s too lengthy to get the wanted capabilities and proper now we’re certainly in want for these capabilities. In order that’s my fundamental goal to be right here [in Washington].”

Poulsen added, “Trump is sort of a lot conscious of that. And in addition [Defense Secretary] Pete Hegseth and [Secretary of State] Mario Rubio [both of whom they had met with]. They’re conscious that they’ve to hurry up all these processes — an excessive amount of pink tape in delivering to Europe. And after we are coming to U.S. saying we want to purchase much more navy tools, then I do not suppose the reply must be you must wait seven or eight years to get it.”

Poulsen additionally stated, “Europe will do extra and I believe the result of the scenario in Ukraine can also be the demanding query for Europe to have the ability to make investments extra and in addition construct up extra [military] capability,” which he described as among the many “classes realized from Ukraine.”

At one level Rasmussen stated he had met briefly with Trump in the course of the June NATO assembly at The Hague. “I instructed him after we met final time after I was prime minister, we solely spent like 1.5 p.c [of the nation’s GDP] in Denmark [for our defense spending]…Then the entire thing occurred in Ukraine. Now there’s completely new sense of urgency. This 12 months Denmark spends 3.2 p.c, precisely the identical as U.S. It’s a clear dedication from our authorities that we’ll meet the three.5 p.c [NATO goal by 2035].”

Ukraine has proven itself to be very sturdy in creating new and modern protection corporations, they each stated, however funding in arms manufacturing exterior Ukraine is what they talked about. Rasmussen stated, “Mainly it is about shopping for from Ukraine to Ukraine.”

He described that when the battle began Ukraine had a weapons business of some $3 billion, however it’s now as much as $40 billion, though Ukrainians “solely have finance for half of it.”

Rasmussen stated a solution has been that “we [the Danes] have spent our personal cash and we even have the distinction to be the facilitator of a few of these [Russian] frozen property or the curiosity linked to the frozen asset. So that’s the foundation of the Danish mannequin and now we’re engaged on making, you realize, actual investments…with our Ukrainian mates to arrange Ukrainian investments in Denmark to present them some type of protected haven.”

Different European international locations have adopted, and along with the Ukrainians they’re producing arms not only for Ukraine, however for their very own militaries. “We must be impressed of what the Ukrainians lesson realized from their battlefield,” Rasmussen stated, “and that is why it is sensible additionally to speculate not solely to help them [Ukrainians], but in addition to make some type of know-how transferring from Ukraine to our personal navy.”

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Poulsen stated the primary pilot undertaking was final July, when Denmark paid for 18 Bohdana self-propelled 155 mm howitzers that Ukraine had created by itself. “They have been produced in two months,” Poulsen stated. “Ought to we have now been capable of purchase them in Europe, it would have taken two years. So in two months they have been capable of produce the Bohdana methods. It was very low-cost and the spare components, the upkeep, all that type of factor are, after all, being accomplished instantly close to the entrance line. So it has been an enormous success and proper now we’re trying into additionally growing new capabilities or finance new capabilities for the protection corporations in Ukraine. That might be missiles, that may be drones. It is underneath Ukrainian protection calls for that they ask for this and we reimburse [pay for] the contracts.”

With some $20 billion from Europeans and others obtainable, Poulsen defined, “the easiest way we will do for our mates in Ukraine to maintain up preventing is in actual fact to present cash instantly into the [Ukraine] protection corporations.”

Poulsen referred to as it Danish mannequin 2.0. and stated, “That is to ask a number of the [Ukraine] protection corporations to have a protected haven in Denmark to supply what they’ll want in Ukraine, hopefully all additionally in Germany and different European international locations.”

Poulsen additionally described a brand new strategy involving Denmark, Germany and Nordic international locations — collectively shopping for weapons methods.

For instance, Poulsen stated that Denmark, Norway and Sweden are trying into shopping for the P-8A Poseidon U.S. Navy multi-mission maritime patrol and reconnaissance plane. He stated it was a functionality they have already got in Norway and Germany, however “not shopping for it ourselves [individually]…we’ll even have some capabilities that we might use along with Sweden and Norway…In order that would be the approach ahead.”

As for Greenland, Rasmussen stated he didn’t actually focus on the matter in any depth when he met with Rubio as a result of “we [the Danes] have the slogan ‘nothing about Greenland with out Greenland [being present].’ Regardless that the international safety coverage [of Greenland] is, you realize, the Danish authorities’s accountability, we have now developed an excellent custom or customized that if we’re, you realize, actually negotiating with the third international locations about these points we can have our Greenlandic colleague [with us].”

Greenland, he stated, was mentioned “in a extra usually approach.”

Rasmussen stated the Danes have been “taken unexpectedly” by Trump’s announcement that for each U.S. nationwide safety and worldwide safety it was crucial that Washington annex Greenland.

Rasmussen, who was Danish Prime Minister from 2016-to-2019 throughout Trump’s first time period, stated, “I’ve skilled with Trump so many occasions that no matter he says…and no matter he proposes there’s at all times some type of rational substance behind it. I imply, and we share the view, that we have now to be current within the Arctic differently. But it surely should not be in a struggle between the dominion of Denmark and U.S. It must be by combining forces and we have now the framework for that.”

He defined that the Danes “have been pushing for together with [the] Arctic within the functionality targets in NATO. And, to some extent, we have been profitable. There’s now a type of principal settlement among the many NATO Arctic international locations, together with U.S., that that is one thing we must always do underneath the framework of the NATO.”

Rasmussen added, “So it isn’t that the Greenlandic challenge is solved. I believe as a result of other than these rational arguments, I am unable to eliminate the concept there’s additionally simply this [Trump] imaginative and prescient of making a much bigger U.S. and we will, after all, not accommodate that.”

Rasmussen added, “I have to say I depart Washington a bit extra optimistic in comparison with after I arrived. I believe the assertion made by the president [Trump] after his [most recent] phone conversations with [Russian President] Putin and [Ukraine President] Zelensky show that he now to a bigger extent share our evaluation of the scenario. I imply it was a bit complicated earlier this 12 months when he had Zelensky within the Oval Workplace who’s the dangerous man, who’s the great man. That has shifted. I believe the [Hague] NATO summit was additionally necessary. I imply I actually really feel and suppose he [Trump] has maybe essentially the most optimistic view on Europe he has had for some time, no less than.”

All that has turned out to have been reasonable. Let’s hope Trump stays on his present trajectory.

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